The Questions New Investors SHOULD be asking
Expected Air Date: 5/25/19
A few days ago we got a question from Lamar asking, “What questions should new investors be asking?” We liked the question so much we decided to make an entire episode out of it. We conducted a survey online and got some interesting responses which I will share plus I will weigh in. Here’s why this is important. If you are new, you need to make sure that your first project has the best chance of succeeding. In order to do that, you must engage in risk mitigation. And how do you do that? Ask questions. Ask a lot of them. Don’t be afraid to be new. Everyone was at some point. The question may be obvious, even to you, but ask it if you don’t know or are unsure. Today I’m going to focus on questions that may not be so obvious to you, the newbie, that we all wish we WOULD have asked if we had known.
Plus we have news about the world of real estate coming up in just a few minutes.
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The Questions new investors ought to be asking:
- From our friends:
- Bryan “How do I determine the finished value of my flip home before I begin repairs?
- Cindy “Could my resources (time, money, skills, etc) produce a better outcome sooner if used elsewhere?”
- Stewart “How do you quickly determine the cost of repairs to determine if it’s a good deal or not? (I’m assuming there’s other interest and there’s little/no time for due diligence)”
- Tom: “Why am I doing this? The answer has to be more than ‘make money.’”
- Victoria: “Do the numbers really work or am I working the numbers?”
- Jeff: “Am I prepared to lose the money I am investing? Never invest money you can’t afford to lose.”
- Damion: “How do you pull comps if you’re not a realtor?”
- Pat: “Is there an app that includes both repairs AND comps?” 🙂
- From Roger:
- What type of investment is this? (one time income, cash-flow, appreciation, speculation?)
- When should I expect to see returns?
- How liquid is my cash?
- How could this deal bite me in the fanny? In other words, What are the risks and how are they mitigated?
- What happens if things get sideways?
- What are the numbers I need to know and how can I know them?
- What’s Plan B?
- Pricing alternative
- Alternative funding source?
- Alternative exit strategy?
- Backup Contractor?
- What is the pricing trend (rents or sales, depending on your exit plan)?
- For flips, what is the average DoM for this price range in this area?
- For rentals, what is the long-term outlook for this neighborhood? Which way is it heading? (the best hoods are those that are immune to value swings)
- For rentals, how are the schools?
- For AirBnB, are there any rumblings in local government that threaten this business model?
- If investing cash in someone else’s deal
- What is that person’s experience?
- What is that person’s reputation?
- Do we have values alignment?
- Sandra, Kansas City, MO, “How do you get in and see all the properties around the country you and your investors are buying?”
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hello everyone it’s great to be talking with you about real estate than I am Rodger Blankenship your host and I teach people how to make money in real estate.
Today we’re taking an entire show.
To deal with one question that came from Lamar I think he was from Las Vegas it was a few shows ago Lamar asked this question.
What questions should new investors be asking.
We liked that question so much we decided to make an entire episode out of it we conducted a survey online and got some interesting responses for from some other investors which I will share plus I’m going to weigh in.
Here’s why this is important if you are new you need to make sure that your first project has the best chance of succeeding.
[1:32] In order to do that you must engage in a type of risk mitigation you must get some knowledge and how do you do those things ask questions.
[1:43] Ask a lot of them.
[1:45] Don’t be afraid to be new this is something that happened to me when I was new I felt like I needed to fake it till I make it then they pretend that I knew things and I didn’t ask
a lot of questions because I want to do a peer of someone who is already knowledgeable that was probably a mistake everyone.
[2:05] Was new in this business at some point you get to be new you get to ask it’s okay.
The question you want to ask may be obvious even to you but ask it if you don’t know or are unsure.
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feel like with the benefits and that’s how we get our question-and-answer segment here if we feel like it would benefit a lot of people all right so don’t hesitate
to ask the questions today I’m going to focus on questions that may not be so obvious to you as a new investor.
These are questions that we all wish we would have known and wish we would have asked when we get started.
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[11:42] The biggest mall owner in the world can’t guarantee there won’t be more
retail record this year that’s in the news from CNBC I pick this up this is Simon Property Group and if you gone into a mall in.
[11:59] You know the last year to you probably saw a little placard somewhere a little brass
thing in the wall that said own and operated by Simon Property Group biggest mall owner in the world and they own just about every mall I can think of and I don’t really spend a lot of time in the malls but when I do it’s almost always a Simon Mall so there you go
anyway they’re talking about what’s going on in the marketplace they they in this story it was supposed to earnings call and
the CEO said that he was nervous about a few more retail bankruptcies during the first quarter and that was just before the Charlotte Russe Things Remembered and Payless ShoeSource all file bankruptcy that was back in February but they believe they’ve seen the worst of it
did they believe they’ve seen the worst of it but they’re not so sure and they’re not you know they’re they’re not fully out of the woods yet but in a
what I think is probably a brilliant move to preserve their own future
he also announced that they have partnered with ohio-based marijuana company green growth Brands to open a hundred and eight location selling CBD products this year and its properties includes including Roosevelt Field mall in New York
and the Galleria in Houston.
[13:12] So I’m not saying anything for a con about CBD it works for some people and who knows but I can tell you this its cells and.
I think that right there in that one moves they’ve done a lot to kind of shore up the defenses so to speak against what’s going on because I’m pretty sure you can’t buy CBD oil over Amazon just yet
speaking of malls one of the largest and most prestigious malls in the United States the Garden State Plaza Mall in Paramus New Jersey is getting a complete makeover trying to address
the needs and desires of today Shoppers so here’s a mall and it is getting.
[13:51] As part of its makeup or makeover is getting
residential area more food options office space space for gym operators and
yoga studios a hotel and an open green space for the surrounding Community to use now I’m not sure why a Suburban Mall needs open Green Space and then that what yards are for
anyway they’re they’re trying to do this to just appeal to people give people another reason to go to the mall and give teenagers another thing to do on Friday night
never not doing this blindly they’ve got evidence to support what they’re doing a recent study by the fossils.
Found at malls with the so-called experiential tenants aren’t just aren’t they’re not just focus on selling products like apple Italian food Hall Eataly and Tesla they really haven’t been bringing in the extra traffic the people would hope for what
they did discover is that additions like office space in apartments at the sales per square foot go up dramatically all right
we have to go to a break I’ve got more news but when we come back we’re going to start dealing with the topic of the day we just questions and if we have time we’ll get this more news okay hey folks thanks for listening.
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[19:08] All right we’re to the question 7 in the theme for Today Show the questions you should be asking if you’re a new real estate investor these are the questions you should be asking and we’re skipping over the ones that are obvious to everyone but the questions that
I experienced investors wished they had been asking when they started so we surveyed
friends online and we got a lot of the standard response pack and we thank you for that but we have narrowed it down to the top three choices that we’re not already included on my list and actually some of the things that came in were just to be fair
but that we have the top three questions from our audience who proposed questions that you might not think of it.
[19:53] Brian how do I determine the finished value of my flip phone before I begin repairs.
Now the reason we included this question is if you watch enough of these TV shows you see them buying a house spending much money fixing it and then bringing in a realtor and asking how much are we going to sell it for.
Some people may think this sounds done I promise you if those people on TV or actually in this business that’s not how they’re doing it
they know before they buy it what they’re going to sell it for that’s the first number you need and so even though that may seem like an obvious question I wanted to go ahead and include that as well Cindy said could my resources
time money skills that reproduce a better outcome.
Sooner if used elsewhere this is a great question and one that everyone should ask here’s what happened sometimes.
[20:44] People watch the TV shows they get excited about flipping houses they hear about somebody from the TV shows coming to their town to do some exciting rahraw seminar they’ve got.
Music npa’s and lights flashing and Banners that show private airplanes and Yachts and they’re all enamored with this lifestyle and they want to be like that guy up on stage only
the guy up on stage isn’t the guy that’s the famous guy that’s on TV this is just some Lackey that he hired but they kind of thinking overlooked that after their initial disappointment and they’re all fired up and excited and the pain 32 $50,000 for a course and after they spend that much money they think they’ve got to go out and do something and they’ve got to do it now we’ve got to make this course pay off we’ve got to get that money back and then
kitchen is Big new lifestyle that we expect
and so they can get into the marketplace and they see deal after deal after deal that doesn’t match the numbers that they were trained to look for and you know what I’m talkin about folks a lot of you do the so-called
maximum allowable offer rule are Mao where you want to be all in in a property at 70% of value I preach and teach this rule.
Unlike others I give you the reasons why and the times when you can make an exception although I’m not doing that in this segment.
I’ve done it before on the show I’ll do it again I’m sure you can also write in and ask me nicely and I’ll send it to you anyway.
[22:04] They’re taking two reasons for this but they can’t find those deals so you know they do that go out and buy a marginal deal or they buy a deal where everything has to go perfectly for their make their numbers
and things never go perfectly especially on your first Flip or they buy something that’s a little thinner thing I don’t need to be greedy I can operate on less margin and they end up and maybe they even make
money A lot of times they don’t.
I can’t tell you how many people have told me hey we just did our first deal and no we didn’t make any money but we learned a lot and you know I have to resist the temptation every single time to just say wait didn’t you just pay $30,000 to learn a lot.
You shouldn’t have to be doing that after you paid all that much money you could have gone out there and learned a lot without spending the $30,000 first back you might have
you might have learned just as much for a lot less than 30,000 if you just gone about a property okay but I’m digressing a little bit anyway.
At the end even the people that make money many times come back and realize with the time and effort and cash that they put into it that you know just that just a return on their cash they made about 10% on their money.
[23:09] Will look if you want to make 10% on your money just go to ground floor. Us and buy into one of the loan if you can make 10% passively.
Okay you don’t have to do all the work you don’t have to hunt for deals and you know
I guess I would accept this 10% result on your first one if you were determined to never do that again but Cindy asked this question and it is so profound you need to ask this could my resources
time money and skills Etc produce a better outcome if used elsewhere and.
It’s not just the your money but it’s also your time the amount of time that you spend in this and all the things that you do know I’m not trying to discourage you from getting in the business I’m just saying you need to ask these questions.
[23:59] Then Stewart suggested this question how do you quickly determine the cost of repairs to determine if it’s a good deal or not.
I’m assuming there’s other interest in there’s little or no time for due diligence that’s usually the case how do you quickly determine the cost of repairs to determine if it’s a good deal or not.
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Roger at Roger Blankenship. Calm and I will answer that question and so thank you for that Stewart and out back to the questions from Tom.
[25:06] Why am I doing this the answer has to be more than make money that is a very good question and thank you Tom for sharing that.
[25:17] Victoria said do the numbers really work or am I working the numbers
and yes that is a another great question we have often seen people trying to make deals fit and fiddling around with the numbers just to try and trying to justify this house that they this project that they really want to do.
Jeff am I prepared to lose the money I’m investing never invest money you can’t afford to lose that is Sound Advice.
And so many people have been damaged or devastated by investing money they really couldn’t afford to lose assuming nothing can go wrong.
Well a lot of times things don’t go wrong but sometimes things do and you don’t want to be in a destitute situation if it does.
[26:07] Damien how do you pull comps if you’re not a realtor that is a great question you need to ask it and you need to get an answer for it.
Pet is there an app that includes both repairs and comps
okay Pat that was Pat Dornan weighing in on on the Facebook posting
the answer to that is yes and you’ll hear the ad and this show for the ultimate rehab estimator which now includes comps when you pop in the property address you’ll get comps and that’s a brand new feature and I’m going to have to get Pat back on the show to explain how it works
and I’ll probably get the add updated to but there you go those are questions that are coming from.
Our friends and this is the list that we called and selected the questions that you might not automatically think of so make a note of them refer back to the show notes and make sure of your new investor you ask those questions then.
[27:00] Here comes the part that I want to add these are the questions that I think you should ask and we only got a couple of minutes here so I’ll probably only get to a couple of them but we’ll do the rest after the break okay
first question what type of investment is this
this is something that you need to know you need to think of it before you go in is this a one-time income deal like a Fix and Flip or is this a cash flow deal which means that opens up a whole different set of questions about how good the deal is and what the numbers are supposed to look like is this
and appreciation deal which I don’t recommend.
Because real estate appreciates too slowly and to rely on that you might as well put your money into an index stock fund this is not Financial advice that’s just too kind of an idea that I have
Or is it speculation also something that’s not for the faint of heart and something I wouldn’t recommend this is where you think that in 10 years time to Columbia Mall there you going to buy this land and hold it and.
At the mall or some shopping center something wants to come and pay you a lot more and that’s what I mean by speculation buying in the path of progress nothing wrong with.
But also nothing certain about it I like the things that are little bit more certain like the income and the you know the one time income and the ongoing cash flow income
next question that you need to ask is when should I expect to see returns.
[28:24] There are three primary ways to invest in real estate one is in the activity of fixing and flipping this can be any asset class from a single family home.
To a factory in anything in between if you’re buying it with the intent to fix it up and resell the property for a profit that’s a Fix and Flip model and.
You need to know when you can expect to see returns is this a 2 month 4 month 6 month 10-year what is the project length expected to be and if it’s if you expect it to be a multi-year project.
Remember to divide your cash-on-cash return by the number of years so you get an annualized.
Return okay and you need to annualize your return if it’s less than one year also.
[29:13] Next how liquid is my cash
this kind of applies to passive real estate investing in there is that on the previous question 2 when should you expect to see returns and how liquid is your cash if you
do you use your cash to buy a property that your company is going to own and you’re either going to manage it or higher out management you’re not liquid at all
it’s going to take some time to pull your cash out of there the very best you can hope for is a refinance to pull your cash out but if you started that today it would be six to eight weeks before you got cash so you’re not liquid in a real estate investment trust your liquid.
In most forms of.
[29:54] A crowdfunding you’re fairly liquid but the rates are mean the terms vary depending on the crowdfunding platform so you just have to ask now if
that’s if you’re passive if you’re an active investor where you’re putting your money into a deal you’re just not going to be liquid at all but you need to know this you need to know that you’re not going to have access to that cash and it it’s kind of intuitive when you’re buying a property to flip.
But it’s worth thinking about if you’re putting money into a passive deal somehow all right we got I got more questions to offer to you but I’ll do that one.
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[32:29] This is the show the questions you should be asking.
Questions new investors should be asking but it probably every investor should ask and I’m about to give you the most important one out of all this is the one that a lot of people don’t think about they don’t ask they don’t
they don’t consider and you need to consider this it should be at the Forefront of your mind and here is the question how could this deal bite me in the fanny.
Does the family oriented show so I said Fanny.
All right if you have another word that you want to put in there that’s between you and God okay well how can this deal bite me in the fanny and other words what are the risks of this deal.
[33:12] And once you’ve asked that question how can they be mitigated.
[33:18] I want you before you spend a dime doing a deal to ask yourself how can things go horribly wrong in this project.
And know the answer to that before you begin.
[33:31] And if you know the answer to that then you have some things that you can do if things start going horribly wrong.
Now the next question is similar to this
what happens if things get sideways and there are many ways you need to approach this question if you are partnering with one or more people on this project and
you start to lose money or the project starts to need more money what happens
if you disagree about a direction maybe you got a repair that you might oughta make I have a friend who has a house that the floor was a unlevel it wasn’t hideous.
And how’s that other I think bigger more pressing concerns to be honest with you but the floor was definitely on level it slow from one room to the other.
A local company that specializes in foundation repair had previously come to the property and had stabilized the foundation and it had a lifetime transferable warranty
they had inherited the warranty and as they have it and they were able to pass that on to whoever buys it from them in the future so the my friend and his Partners got into a fairly heated discussion about the priority of of leveling up
put that floor moving it another oh maybe a half inch over 15 feet to get it perfectly level.
Versus some other really pressing issues in a terrible landscape out out back and.
[35:00] You know you’ve got to kind of know these things you won’t know all of the issues before you begin but if you got multiple partners on it do you need to ask what do we do if we disagree
how do we break a tie or who is the final decision-making Authority.
[35:16] You’ve got to resolve that because you can get stuck if you’ve got a partnership where everyone has an equal voice and particularly if you have an even number of Partners and you end up with like a tutu to tie or 1 to 1 or 3 to 3 tie whatever it is
there has to be a tiebreaker figured out.
And then what are you going to do if everybody is put in the money that they can listen and you got uneven percentages in there and then
you end up needing more money what are you going to do do you have that figured out there are a lot of ways that things can go sideways and the more.
People participating and the more complex the rehab the more likely things are going to get a little out of joint here and there.
So you need to think about that next question what are the numbers I need to know and how can I know them
you see the numbers that you need for a Fix and Flip are different than the numbers that you really need for a buy-and-hold the numbers that you need for a single-family buy-and-hold are different than the numbers you’re going to want for a multi-family well once you get up
5 units above into commercial you going to get some different numbers and valuations are going to be different if your regular listener to the show you know that that’s true
so you need to know what are the numbers you really need to know and how can you know them.
[36:41] Okay the next question I want you to think about is what’s Plan B.
[36:50] You know in our three-year plans in life we never have.
As part of a written out plan something is going to go horribly wrong I’m going to make a stupid decision and I’m going to derail my life and it’s going to take me 6 months or two years to get back on track and when that happens here’s what I’m going to do about it.
[37:10] Nobody ever puts it in the 3-year plan still most entrepreneurs make some Dreadful mistake along the way.
[37:18] Present company included all right and.
You need to have a plan B you need to have a plan B for your life you need to have a plan B for the project you need to have a plan B for the parts of the project
Plan B for your rehab going over budget a plan B for a pricing alternative a plan B before you even get the project and you’re still thinking about buying it and alternative funding source.
You need maybe a plan B for an alternative exit strategy you definitely need plan b c and d for alternative contractors because
sometimes you have to fire contractors and sometimes good contractors that you like we’ll move on to greener pastures or other things or start their own fixing flip business trying to do what you do
make the money you make whatever it is you you’re always going to need a stable of contractors and in ready to draw on.
So every major piece of this puzzle probably needs a plan B and I want to encourage you to think about that.
[38:24] Next what is the pricing Trend rent or sales depending on your exit plan now.
[38:32] If you look back at show number 187 you will find the eighth key metric set.
[38:39] We and our research barber near flipping America use to keep our finger on the pulse of the market in American Real Estate we’re tracking it.
[38:49] And we’re digesting the graphs in the charts in the data and all that so you don’t have to
if you just stay with us and listen to the show we’re going to tell you what’s going on and we’ll tell you when it’s good it will tell you when it’s turning will tell you when it’s our will tell you what to do in all the circumstances at least make some suggestions for you and will help you understand but we
probably are not going to get granular enough to know what’s going on in your individual Market
and sometimes your individual Market is broken down just by neighborhood and sometimes Street by Street
you need to know what’s going on and your realtor is going to be the best source of this if your realtor can’t give you this information you probably need a different realtor all right.
You need to know what’s going on with the rents and sales in the trends in your area
and also in this particular price range because Trends are a little different in different price ranges in Atlanta right now most in town sales of anything less than 500,000 you’re still going to get an offer pretty quick and sand and houses are going to sell
if you get up above 750 you’re going to sit on it now that’s just Atlanta
and that’s just in those price points and those are things that you need to know I’m just saying that as an example is definitely not the same everywhere so you need to know what the pricing trend is going to be.
[40:10] Because if prices are cooling off if if sales are cooling off in the price range of this project you’re considering you need to plan to sit on a little bit longer I’m not saying don’t do its plan to sit on a little bit longer.
[40:22] 4 flips you need to know this the next question the average days on Market in the price range in this area.
That’s an important thing because especially if you borrow money you have a daily cost attached to that property.
For rentals what is the long-term outlook for this neighborhood.
[40:41] Which way is it heading is it on the rise is it improving is it gentrifying is it getting better or is it going downhill is it getting worse is it a crime scene is it a war zone are the schools terrible and in the only people that live there are people who don’t care about their children’s education
you need to know this and I would say to you for most of you across America listening this
you’re going to be best off for long-term buy-and-hold if you buy in neighborhoods that seem to be immune to these kinds of swings honestly inside the perimeter in Atlanta I don’t know
and even a little bit outside I don’t know if there is a neighborhood that is immune to these kinds of swings
I’ve been on in and around Atlanta now for the better part of 25 or 30 years and I’ve watched neighborhoods that were once great and go terrible and then come back again while other areas
you know they’re always swinging up and down it seems like there aren’t very many stable areas there are a few and I’m promising you you’re not going to find $15,000 three
three bedroom houses there
you’re going to pay a little bit more but you’re going to reap the rewards of that stability by the type of people that you put in there and the long-term appreciation potential and the less risk you have for what’s going to happen in that neighborhood
going forward okay so make sure you ask that question as well.
[42:08] And if you’re considering Airbnb here’s another question are there any Rumblings and local government that threaten this business model Airbnb can be quite lucrative and I’m going to have another Airbnb guest on pretty soon and we’ll be talkin about this and more also going to talk about what’s going on at the governmental levels because some
Are trying to shut down all Erin bear B&B completely which I think would not pass the a constitutional test but.
Definitely condo buildings high-rises in the city of Atlanta in other places
they’re shutting out Airbnb as quickly as they can because the the people that live there don’t want to deal with the the uncertainty that comes from other airbnb’s one city that I know of has an ordinance forbidding Airbnb Citywide
based on the complaint of one resident yep so there’s a little bit of reactionary regulation
going there but we’ll see you just have to pay attention talk to somebody in your area who’s doing Airbnb and find out what’s going on in your local government local and state government.
[43:15] Okay now last questions that I have are questions concerning that that you need to ask if you’re investing in someone else’s deal
because this is an opportunity to make some serious Returns on your money with
no effort this is where you can really put your money to work even right now if you if you were able to get a hold of Lyft America guy and said I’ve got some money and I want to make 10 to 15% return on the money
and not lift a finger I’ve got opportunities I can put you in right here in Atlanta and some of these are opportunities that I’m involved in as well and you’re saying well Rodger where you put your money well I thought a lot of these
inexpensive houses lately and I’m just letting you know.
I can’t buy everything that’s in front of me right so I can put you into some of these opportunities for people are willing to pay this kind of return 15% but here’s the questions you need to ask when you’re looking at someone else’s deal what is that person’s experience.
What is that person’s reputation and do we have an alignment of values now that’s going to take a little bit to get to know them.
And if they are a wise recruiter of private money they will take the time to get to know you as well
they have it folks my questions now some of you are right now thinking that’s an overwhelming amount of questions I want to tell you what to do about that when we get.
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[47:16] As I mentioned going into the break that’s a lot of questions to ask and you probably can’t
remember or won’t remember to ask all of them every time the point of this exercise is to give you a little bit of wisdom pointing out the fact that you just can’t
buy real estate deals based on what the seller is telling you
you maybe if you’re new at this you may be talking to an experienced wholesaler who says yeah I know this properties it’s going to self at 3:25 and you’re going to spend 40,000 rehabbing it and daughters purchase price in these numbers were.
If you just take them at face value and believe them then you’re making a serious mistake you need to ask a lot of these other questions.
[48:00] First of all when you’re dealing with wholesalers I think you should have a healthy distrust of their numbers it’s not that wholesalers are going to lie to you in fact.
I know a lot of wholesalers that are just good people and they know what they’re doing.
But I also know a lot of wholesalers that are basically good people who have no idea what they’re doing and when it comes to the numbers are just guessing
and yes I know a fair number of wholesalers who know what the numbers are supposed to be and will present a deal with numbers that would work if you don’t question numbers but when you do look into the numbers you’ll see that the property is not going to sell for what they say or the repairs are going to be more than what they say
[48:41] Okay ask the questions get the show notes from this show to get a transcript of the show.
Write them down think about them ask a lot of questions be healthily distrustful.
[48:57] And don’t just do a deal because you’re in love with the idea of doing a deal or.
Because you can see how you could create a beautiful thing with this dilapidated house that’s art folks and you know where most artists are.
They’re starving you don’t want to be a starving artist real estate investor you want to be a successful real estate investor and the key to this is not being
in love with the house and turning it into some work of art and some miracle thing that you could showcase on your website how you brought it back.
And Like a Phoenix Rising From the Ashes that’s not the point that’s not what you should be doing but I’m afraid that’s why a lot of people get into this business what you need to be doing is looking sensibly
and almost coldly at the property as something that you’re going to turn into extra money.
And if if you can do that that’s fine now I know that
this number of questions can seem overwhelming and I have had people who sit in my flip starter event who were all excited about flipping houses and when they come to the Flint starter event
they just know I’m going to give them that final piece of the puzzle to help
them and they sit there and they listen to me go through the steps involved in a rehab and they come up to me afterwards and thank me that it only cost them $300 to find out they don’t want to do this.
[50:18] It’s not.
That difficult but there are a lot of moving parts and there are a lot of ways things can go wrong if you are on top of them from the beginning
and if you know some things about what you’re doing and if you have good cash reserves and a good heart and patience you can make this business work.
[50:41] I just want you to ask the right questions.
[50:45] Okay now we’re going to segment in the show where we normally get questions from you but I want to do a follow-up I want to start with a follow-up from Linda from Jacksonville
if you’re a regular listener you know that we’ve had a little ongoing thing with Linda and a roofing contractor and I want to read to you the email she sent as a follow-up
she said good morning.
Oh I thought I should tell you that the little background Village of the didn’t hear this before she got a quote from roofing contractor and then after they put
pulled the shingles off of the roof they told her that the roof pitch wasn’t high enough to put shingles and they had to put a modified roof on it and was going to be a lot more money and had to make some unexpected repairs in her bid went from 7000 to 17000 and expected her to pay it
and so there’s a little bit of a dispute going on there there was also an insurance claim which kind of complicated things so.
If you were listening I gave her some suggestions about how to handle this this is a buy-and-hold property not a flip and my suggestions.
[51:47] For handling this would be different if it were a flip OK anyway she just wrote me back and said good morning.
After I emailed the company with as they said
threats which I wouldn’t have called it that I just inform them that I was a member of to Ria’s and I also plan to contact Better Business Bureau as well as take legal actions against them if this problem
wasn’t resolved immediately no folks that I would probably be perceived as a threat as well
we received a final bill for $11,289.54 which insurance paid 10001 25.96 and are deductible for wind damage was 1000
we were very happy it’s really a shame that we had to go through this but hopefully by sharing information others won’t make the same mistake we did
the model from this experience is if you’re dealing with a roofer get an estimate always don’t count on your insurance company to do anything for you you are the project manager on the job.
[52:52] It’s material should change in any way get a revised quote on the job because we went from a shingle roof to a modified because after the shingles were taken off
the 2-inch pitch was not there also never trust anyone including roofers.
Even if you’ve done business with them before I am 68 years old and I started in this business at the age of 48 and I am still learning
thanks for your interest in also for sharing and caring Linda thank you for getting the answer back to us and those are some good lessons to learn she had done business with his roofing company before but the ownership of changed hands prior to this project
no I don’t I can’t really say on this show from this far away this was in Jacksonville Florida I can’t say
for sure that the roofers were out to kind of take advantage of her it’s easy to assume that
but it could be that there were in every rehab situation it’s possible that you will run into situations that were not foreseen and so here’s the way I approach this I want to know.
Was this reasonably foreseeable.
[54:03] If it was not reasonably foreseeable then I am much more amenable to a solution that’s going to cost me more money.
[54:12] If this was foreseeable but they just didn’t catch it.
That’s what I’m going to hold their feet to the fire on the bed and that’s what I encouraged her to do and you noticed they sent her an invoice for over 17,000 and they modified it to 11000 289 and I’m.
Thinking probably that was either cost or a little bit of a loss probably a loss for them on this but the point is the pitch of a roof is knowable in advance.
They should have could have an any professional roofer would have known that this roof
was not ready to receive the same type of roofing that was on it.
I apparently because of new regulations now I’m not sure what she even means by 2 inch pitch if that’s a 212 that’s a fairly flat roof now.
In the South for hillsview that list nap in Pittsburgh in Wisconsin. You probably have never seen a 2/12 roof
but in the South especially in Jacksonville Florida you don’t have to worry about snow load it just has to be able to shed rain and if you’re shedding rain it just has to be a little bit down hill
it doesn’t take much downhill at all for water to flow and the water will always flow down so it to 12 is almost a flat roof.
But they could have known this and they should have known this and they did know this before they quoted or a shingle roof somebody doing the quoting missed it.
[55:41] So should the owners pay for the mistake of their employee that went out there and quoted the job.
[55:48] Absolutely yes because that’s it’s it’s maybe the the employees fault but it’s the owner’s responsibility now look books.
[55:58] If I say this about them I have to say this about me too I have borne the brunt of many mistakes made by my employees over the years.
And in every case.
I will look at the person in the eye and say to them this is not my fault but it is my responsibility and I am going to make it right.
[56:20] Those are words to live by.
[56:24] And because I live by them I can therefore hold those that I do business with to the same standard.
So Linda again thanks for sharing your email and I think we have time to get to one email from the inbox so let’s pick one.
[56:41] Sandra from Kansas City Missouri and also I got this question at the Meetup group on Thursday night how do you get in and see all the properties around the country you and your investors are buying that’s very good question and the answer is we don’t.
And I know that the person I was speaking with the other night said how can you buy it if you haven’t gotten in to see it when we’re buying houses for you know.
Under $10,000 usually around 5 or 7,000 and we’re relying on the pictures posted by the auction sites if we start finding at the auction sites are not posting reliable pictures I’ll have a different answer to this but right now.
Week I found that we can pretty much rely on the properties to be in the condition as pictured they don’t all have some pictures of the interior.
And in that case it needs to be even less but I have bought a couple houses for one or two thousand dollars now we’re not selling them for much.
We’re not making that much money on them and back.
Truth be told we’re making very little because we’re seller financing them just getting small monthly payments for my buyers but.
We’re not touching them either we’re buying them very inexpensively and I tell my investor Partners you know we could lose all this money but you don’t $5,000.
[58:02] So it when we make it work we create cash flow for a few years out of each one of them and that’s the point we sell them as is fixer uppers to locals were going to move in.
And pay at a much reduced payment for the property for just you know probably 7 years.
And then exchanged that they have to fix up what’s wrong with it cuz it’s their house.
Took gives them an opportunity to become homeowners at a very cheap price and gives us opportunities to create cash flow.
[58:32] That’s why we do it that’s how we do it that’s not everything about how we do it but that’s enough enough cuz the music is playing so we’ll see.
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